City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Pitch Demo, Renews Contract Anyway

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TLDR

  • Flock Safety used live cameras in a Dunwoody, GA children’s gymnastics room, pool, and Jewish community center as sales demos, confirmed by access logs obtained via public records request.

Key Takeaways

  • A resident’s public records request surfaced Flock access logs showing employees viewed cameras at the MJCCA children’s gymnastics room, pool, fitness centers, and a school during sales demos.
  • Flock’s own FAQ states “nobody from Flock Safety is accessing or monitoring your footage” – directly contradicted by the confirmed demo access.
  • Flock’s surveillance network in a single city aggregates not just city-purchased cameras but also cameras from private businesses, all accessible through one system.
  • After the story broke, Flock agreed to restrict future demos to public locations like retail parking lots, but Dunwoody renewed its contract anyway.
  • Flock’s transparency defense – that access logs exist and can be FOIA’d – is the only structural accountability mechanism in place.

Hacker News Comment Review

  • Commenters flagged the absence of a dedicated demo environment as a basic engineering failure; the consensus is Flock is reacting rather than planning, with no proper data access controls.
  • A recurring concern is that Flock is systematically lowering friction for mass real-time surveillance access, making abuse a scaling problem rather than an isolated incident.
  • YC’s continued backing of Flock drew pointed criticism, with commenters questioning institutional accountability given the pattern of privacy violations.

Notable Comments

  • @jmward01: Argues the core danger is cost-free, consequence-free access – not the existence of cameras – and that Flock is dismantling the friction that historically limited surveillance abuse.
  • @throwway120385: “Flock is building the Telescreen from 1984.”

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