Why Businesses Are Rejecting the AI They’ve Asked For ft Agency CEO Elias Torres
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Elias Torres argues businesses are sabotaging AI adoption through imperfection anxiety, and outlines why Agency is building autonomous back-end customer experience instead of another AI SDR.
- Businesses demand AI then reject it because they expect database-style perfect accuracy from a broad, probabilistic system.
- Torres built a chatbot at IBM in 1999; Agency is his third company, targeting $1B revenue with fewer than 100 employees.
- Agency deliberately ignored the AI SDR wave and targeted post-sale, back-end customer experience, where Torres sees deeper pain.
- Klaviyo (Andrew Bialecki) was an early Agency customer: AI acting as expert CSM across all customer accounts simultaneously.
- Drift peaked above $1B valuation but Torres says it failed to scale because it only solved the first touchpoint, not the full customer journey.
- Any AI workflow that still requires a human to open a chat box is, in Torres’s words, dead on arrival.
- Agency has 50+ customers; Torres is deliberately not chasing revenue yet, prioritizing obsessive product-market fit over growth.
- Torres’s core thesis: most business processes exist only because the technology to replace them didn’t exist — AI makes them unnecessary, but deprogramming takes time.
2025-09-23 · Watch on YouTube